Discussions of my experiences of Revit and various work processes/tricks that I have implemented to utilise the program effectively. I have been using revit since August 2001.
Thursday, July 10, 2008
Revit Rendering Fundamentals
Apologies this file is rather large due to all the embedded images (37MB approx.)
Again, I love to hear feedback both good and bad. It gives me incentive to keep updating this page...
EDIT: Webserver no longer allows me to have files this large. Please see link to PDF.
Friday, July 04, 2008
Families the Basics - including management
This is the talk I did about Families.
Generally it investigates how to setup standards in your office in order to maintain control of your library and develop consistency as well as maximum functionality.
Unfortunately our webserver no longer allows me to post these large files. Please use this link to PDF.
It then looks at some of the basics of family creation of which I then did some live demo's. If enough people post interest, I'll upload a video screen capture of this... :-)
Friday, May 30, 2008
Revit Technology Conference 2008
Revit Technology Conference 2008 is on in June. I will be speaking as well as a host of other people. I strongly recommend you attend as its going to be 3 full on days of intensive training.
Hope you can make it.
Info can be found here http://www.rugsyd.com.au/rtc2008/rtc2008_events.htm
Wednesday, February 20, 2008
Join Geometry Secrets
If two adjacent walls are within say 25mm of each other and you use join geometry between the two walls (they don't even need to touch) the two walls inherit the openings of the other.
This is very handy when you are forced to model finish layers separetly in some situations. Saves you doing the unthinkable and using the evil "edit profile" option...
HTH.
Thursday, December 06, 2007
In Place families when should I use these?
- I'll model the first one in-place,
- Then whilst still in edit family mode, copy all the geometry and paste aligned into a new external generic model family and save it as say "Floors 3-9".
- I then switch back to the project and delete the inplace family i just made.
- I create a new in-place Floor family called "Level 3 Floor" and load the generic model family "Floors 3-9" into it and place it on level 3.
- Then finish the family.
- Revit then understands that this family is a floor allowing you to attach walls to it.
- You can then copy and paste by level to levels 4-9 and rename in the inplace families as per the level they are apply to. Yes we did just copy and inplace family, but because its contents is purely an external family there is no real overhead in doing this. Plus if we make a change to that generic model and reload it, it will update all of our floors!
Revit Referencing Sheets on View Tags
If you do then I bet you've had times when you thought why on earth is Revit choosing to reference from some bizarre view instead of the one you want.
Well its really quite simple -
It uses the drawing sheet numbers to determine which view to back reference.
For instance, lets say you have a sheet set as per the following:
010 Site Plan
020 Existing Plan
030 Demolition Plan
040 General Arrangement Plan
050 Elevations
060 Sections
etc.
Now lets say you have your section and elevation markers turned on in all those views and they haven't had the "hide at scales coarser than" parameter assigned properly.
In this case your Elevations & sections would display their referencing sheet as 010. This is because when you are looking through the set its the first drawing you would come to (logical hey).
Now if we go to the Site Plan and turn off the sections/elevations or charge our "hide at scales coarser than" parameter so as to effectively turn them off in this view. Our sections and elevations are now magically updated to reference back to 030 (this is assuming that they are new construction phase sections and elevations). Again because its the first drawing you would see the markers when looking through the set.
If you're anything like me, I want mine to back reference to the General Arrangement Plan (040). So our dilemma is do we turn off the section & elevation markers in this view? (probably the obvious choice) or the alternative and probable wrong solution would be to adjust our set order so the general arrangement plan comes before the demolition plan in the set...
I look forward to a setting in Revit where we can override this behaviour in special instances. But understanding this may help you identify why sometimes a view is being referenced from a strange place.
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I've also noticed some strange circumstances, usually when dependant views are involved where views reference back to a sheet that has the markers turned off. Hopefully this bug will be fixed or maybe it was just related to my file being corrupt?
Saturday, November 17, 2007
Mr Spot's 5 Golden Rules for Revit
The hard part is trying to prioritise what I think are my top 5 rules, so hard in fact that I think I need to break it down into 2 categories. Project & Family:
PROJECTS
- Work in multiple views. When you are working on your model make sure you completely understand the extents of what you are editing. I don't believe this can be done from any single orthogonal view. Working in 3D is great and should be done as much as possible as you can quickly see how the elements you are manipulating interact with elements around them (make use of section boxes to do this also). Too many times I see users trying to make changes only in a plan and then a week later discovering all the issues they have made for themselves in their sections...
- Setup your template effectively and continually update it & customise templates at the beginning of new projects to suit that project. If you find you have to make graphical changes to your project everytime you want to print something or once it reaches a certain stage then there is a good chance your template file isn't setup appropriately. The earlier you do this and the quicker you update your templates the less redundant work you'll have to do updating the many revit files you end up with.
- Plan your project! Sit down with pen and paper first, especially for large projects or projects of an unfamiliar type, and work out exactly how you are going to document it. Are you going to use groups or links or design options? If so what are the issues in doing this and how are you going to resolve these? How is the project team going to work? Important questions that need to be resolved as soon as possible, preferably before the model is started.
- Develop a system of control for your Library. Family naming conventions, parameters (what do I want to show up in my schedule?), displays at various scales...
- Make use of your model as much as possible for drafting and details. If you use your model as the basis for your details then you can identify issues before they get to site. Yes of course you should still draft over these for details, but using the model as the basis you know when your details need to be updated or re-looked at.
Hmm, most of these are standards based which shows my position as CAD/BIM Manager. But really having your standards and protocols in place is one of the MOST important tasks in maintaining an effective Revit working environment.
FAMILIES:
- Setup Reference planes first! I can't stress this enough. It makes creating parametric families so much simpler. Place them in and give them names and appropriate strengths (ie: Centre Front/Back, Bottom or Weak)
- Give your family an appropriate ORIGIN point. This is especially important when using arrays as I've spoken about previously.
- Do all families as non-hosted (there are some exceptions) first. Then simply nest them into the hosted template. This way its very simple to constrain them to their host.
- Fill out and add parameters & types for all your families. As a good friend of mine says, Wesley Benn, leverage as much data as possible. Info entered once here is info that doesn't need to be entered 10 times in your next 10 projects...
- Minimise numbers of families by making them as flexible as possible. Less families means, smaller project sizes, quicker load times, less things to change and things are easier to find. Refer to some of my previous posts to see some methods of doing this.
Well that's my list. I'm sure I could easily have a top 100...
As always your comments are most welcomed.
Thursday, November 15, 2007
Requests for Posts
Please post your comments on this thread as to any particular items you would like me to touch on.
I've finished uni now and have the internet on at home again so should be able to start posting more frequently...
I'll then try to add posts based on peoples requests...
Cheers!
Wednesday, October 24, 2007
3D Engraved Model Text

Tuesday, September 11, 2007
A "Family Type" Parameter for swappable subcomponents


So my defining origin points are the Bottom Reference Plane (note I set it to be "Is Reference = Bottom), Centre Left/Right & Centre Front/Back.

These are the parameters I include in the door. Note I have parameters to control vision panels if they exist. This way I have even more flexibility...

This is the labourious part. Go to each type you loaded in the project browser, go to the element properties for each one, then link through all the parameters by clicking the "link" column for each parameter. For the first one you will need to use "Add Parameter..." for the ones that don't exist yet. Then after this you can just pick them. Note I link Panel Width & Panel Height to Width & Height respectively. (note for double doors I don't do this because I have extra parameters for each door panel, left/right).
You see there is drop down called label and its currently set to "None". Select "Add Parameter", give it a name and your done.If you load this door into a project you now have a parameter that enables you to swap out the panels as needed.
Now this quick tutorial didn't really go into the depth of creating a door it was more to concentrate on the parts that are required to successfully create a working "Family Type" parameter.
I hope someone finds this useful.
Post if you have queries, as I'll add more detailed info if it proves people still have trouble.
Cheers.
Curtain Wall - Corner Cutouts

That's right, the corner doesn't get cutout correctly...
Now, there are a few different ways to resolve this. My preference is to create a wall hosted generic model. Then I just create a void in that family, give it instance parameters for width, height, thickness etc... And finally use the cut geometry tool to tell the void to cut the host.
Now I can just load that family into my project place it in the offending wall, use the grips to adjust its size to fit the situation and then move it into place.

Too easy. Advantages? Well its a family so they can easily be filtered, they don't have a huge effect to your file size and its easy to adjust. Plus you can always select them and change them as needed.
For one I prepared earlier use this link:
http://www.cadway.com.au/Signatures/CLP/Corner_Cutout.rfa
I hope you find this helpful :)
Tuesday, August 28, 2007
Revit Technology Conference 2007
I hope those of you who have been to the RTC07 roadshow have found at least some of it beneficial?
Feel free to post your comments...
I've just got back from the Auckland Conference which went very well apart from a minor hardware glitch on one of the laptops (the video card kicked the bucket during a hot swap). On a whole and from speaking to a few of the attendees I feel it is running well and people are getting something out of it.
I've learned a couple of nifty little tricks myself! I especially liked Chris Needham's awakening of the Scope boxes which I've never really used. I had no idea they had that many uses.
During the roadshow I've had a couple of requests for tutorials/families to be uploaded.
So far they have been the "generic wall hosted opening I use for curtain wall strip glazing to cleanup the corners" and "a step by step tutorial on how to create families with swappable components".
Both of these I'll upload in the next two weeks or so. Hold me to that, if you don't see it in that time frame add your comments and abuse me and hopefully that will kick me into gear.
Its been great putting faces to so many of the people that have found my online contributions beneficial over the years.
Cheers.
Tuesday, April 24, 2007
Revit 2008 - Point edit Floor & Roof Tool
So how powerful is this new tool? Can it do everything I want it to? What can't it do?
I'll try to answer these questions as best I can:
To save the new users the frustration of trying to do something that the tool can't yet create I'll list the shortfalls and bugs that currently exist in this fantastic new tool.
1. As it states in the Revit help, the new point edit tool cannot be used if the floor or roof sketch contains curved segments. This doesn't mean you can't have a curvy roof though :) You just have to create your roof with straight segments first and then use Modelling->Opening->Vertical Opening to cut the element to the desired shape.
2. Further extrapolating on the above functionality with curves. There are certain circumstances where the opening will NOT cut the element and instead reports an error "can't create geometry". I've experienced this once on a floor that had 85 point edits on it as well as multiple cuts to create a curved edge. The current workaround to this is to create smaller openings until you can identify the location that is causing the issue.
3. If you have two split lines very close together (say less than 2mm) you begin to get some strange occurences in sections. That is, the floor/roof will not get cut by a section OR section box for that matter. Instead the whole floor or roof displays similar to the behaviour of certain family categories such as furniture... In this case you are better use a single line and break it into segments.
4. You can only have 1 variable layer or all variable layers. That is, you can't have the top layer of your floor a variable thickness as well as the bottom layer having separate points and its own variable thickness. The solution being to use multiples floors and to join them together - it helps if you make them overlap so you don't get the can't join geometry error.
That about covers the issues i'm currently aware of. But hey, lets stop being so negative and look at what this new tool can do for us...
So far my office has made use of this tool for tiles with a topping slab with falls to floor wastes, also sidewalks or footpaths, variable thickness rigid insulation, and tapered floors that even include thickenings.
This is just some of the uses of the new tool, as you can see my uses have been primarily floors but i'm sure others have plenty of other uses for the tool (FEEL FREE TO POST YOUR USES).
So how does it work? (images to come later)
1. First you create your floor using straight lines only and finish sketch.
2. Now select your floor. You see 5 new options display in the element toolbar.
3. ...to be continued when I have some free time in the next week or so...
Friday, October 20, 2006
Reloading Families of a different Name
Well its possible.
In your project browser (where all your sheets/views are list at the left of screen) scroll down to the families section and expand the list.
Now find the family you want to overwrite.
Right click and select reload.
Now navigate to the family you want to overwrite it with. Amazingly it doesn't need to be the same name or even the same family category
Once reloaded revit will swap out all your families of this type in the project for this new version.
This is good for keeping file sizes down and avoiding excess loaded families.
Hope this helps :)
Comments are welcome as always.
Saturday, May 20, 2006
Export to DWG Known Issues
1. Elements that have used the linework tool on certain category families do not get exported.
2. When the linework tool is used on an underlay to show the roof and the underlay is turned off, in the resulting export the roof hatch is typically exported also...
3. White, no pattern fills created in annotation families or any family for that matter export to AutoCAD and print as solid black making the annotations unreadable. FIXED
4. Elements in sub-categories are not exported to their subcategories even though they have been mapped to a seperate layer in the export layers file. THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN RESOLVED WITH A LATER BUILD OF REVIT. ELEMENTS ARE STILL EXPORTED TO THEIR CATEGORY LAYER AS BLOCKS, HOWEVER PARTS OF THESE BLOCKS CAN BE TURNED OFF USING THE SUBCATEGORIES. FIXED
5. Crop Region translations when exporting sheets directly correspond to those in Revit. The issue being is that an AutoCAD viewport crops text and annotations where is Revits doesn't...
6. When Override host layers is enabled for walls etc, the resulting export places these lines using an unpredictable color which doesn't correspond with the export layers file. Typically Color 10 or Color 50 so these need to be assigned in your CTB file.
7. Dimension and text should create new styles upon export rather than using the STANDARD style as this creates issues with older versions of AutoCAD commonly used by clients and consultants.
8. When loaded generic models are used as an in-place floor when a callout of them is exported the entire floor comes across in the result export. This is an issue as if the setting is used to export out to a single sheet often this floor then overlaps the other details on the sheet making them appear incorrectly.
9. Linetype translations are still unpredictable. Often the linetypes used in revit don't translate through into the export. A solid line is the result. For instance overrides applied using a filter to select specific wall types to display in a particular manner.
10. The penultimate would be for an exported titleblock to export with attributes created for the parameters. Some of our clients have database systems they use for managing drawings (checking in and out etc) that link with these attributes. As the various consultants do not currently use Revit the only deliverables are DWG and DWF/PDF. As such these resultant exports need to be perfect and useable in order to work appropriately within a system such as this.
11. Text leaders somtimes get exported with an uncontrollable overridden color. Color 10 or Color 50...
Feel free to add comments
Tuesday, May 16, 2006
Revit 9 Filters Explained
They give you the ability to control the visibility of any group of elements you define. Including their line colour, line style, and lineweight as well as whether that particular group of elements is visible.
They give the user the ability to control elements in way where previously mistreating worksets was the only method. Personally I still feel the need to control elements with worksets sometimes.
Before I begin with a quick tutorial, filters cannot be used on annotation elements such as section markers (unfortunately...)
Being by going to your visibility settings for the view you wish to add a filter.
Click on the filter tab.
Click Filters down the bottom.
Click New, to add a new filter.
Name it accordingly. Best to use something descriptive so you'll be able to use it again in another view at a later stage.
Select which element categories you'd like it to filter through... You can select multiple or single categories.
Select filter by... This enables you to filter from all the shared and project parameters available for these elements.
Then select the way you want to filter it (contains, equals etc)
Then type in the condition you require. (you can repeat this to set multiple conditions in a single filter)
Now insert this filter into the view.
Now all elements matching this criteria can be manipulated independently, either by turning them off, giving them a different line style (for example fire rated walls or structural walls...)
You can also access you filters through you settings menu.
Wednesday, April 12, 2006
Object Styles Explained
In a family:
When you are in a family going to settings->Object Styles can create new subcategories for elements that will enable them to be turned off or their display manipulated without changing all elements in that category. For example:
Say we have a generic model family and we create a new object style by going to our object style settings, clicking NEW and selecting sub-category of generic models and name in "Signage". We could then select individual solid geometries located in our family and go to their properties and set their subcategory to "Signage". Now if we were to load this family into a project we could turn off signage in our visibility settings and it would just turn off these geometries whilst keeping on our other generic models.
The other items that are created when adding a new object style are new linetypes (this is where some people become confused as in families you do not create new linetypes you create new object styles). If we were to select symbolic lines in our family you'll note that two new linestyles are now selectable. That is, Signage (cut) and Signage (projection). Similarly lines drawn in this object style can be turned off or manipulated independant of all generic models as previously outlined.
In a project:
In Settings->Object Styles in a project we can change how a particular sub-category or category is displayed globally throughout the model by editing its properties. You'll note we have multiple tabs, for model, annotation etc for the different classes of elements.
These can also be overridden per view to enable exceptions to the graphical display of these elements for paricular views.
Nested Arrays & Formulas
Just in summarisation though, best practices when creating parametric arrays:
1. Always use nested families for elements that are to be arrayed
2. Always constrain the two defining elements of the array in all 3 axis. (defining elements are either the first and second or first and last depending on which option you've selected when creating your array)
3. Always constrain your arrayed elements by dimensioning to their origins. (their origin is the intersection of the three "defines origin" reference planes - THIS SHOULD BE LOCATED AT A LOGICAL POINT THAT YOU WANT TO CONSTRAIN TO, TO AVOID EXCESSIVE DIMENSIONS AND PARAMETERS)
Hopefully this quick cheat sheet can be used to diagnose issues with malfunctioning arrays.
Sunday, April 09, 2006
Making "Elevation" tags look like Section Heads (pre-Revit 2011)
Begin with a standard section:

Now select it and go to its properties and choose Edit/New:

Now we want to duplicate this section type and call it "Building Elevation" for example:

Now if we Okay out of each of these windows and goto our Settings-->View Tags-->Section Tags... Settings, we can create a new section tag type called Building Elevation and set it to have Section Tail = none:

Now we need to select our section and go to its properties and tell it to use this new section tag type that we have created:

We should now have a section that uses the Section-Building Elevation type and it doesn't have a tail:

Now if we select this section again, and drag the section line end point back to the head, MAKING SURE TO LEAVE A SMALL EXTENSION PAST THE HEAD (otherwise we'll have difficulty actually using the section/moving it etc):

Finally its just a simple matter of adjust the sections crop regions so the head is roughly centred. Now we have a section tag that looks like an elevation marker and still has much of the same functionality. However it now looks how we want it to and all information (detail number/sheet number etc) are displayed within the actual marker, unlike elevation tags.

Personal Wishlist - Updated for RAC2008
1. Elevation Tags
We need to be able to further customise these tags to achieve the standards we require. Whether this be by making them external families ala sections tags or simply allowing more options to customise their display.
2. Filtering of Sections by type (Now possible to an extent with the 2008 Hide in View tool)
How many of us spend countless hours using hide annotation in view to hide unwanted sections in a view. It would be great if we could filter the sections per view based on their type!
3. View Depth Clipping of Lineweights in section and elevation!
Sections/Elevations often look flat and are difficult to read, this needs to be implemented. Workarounds such as turning on shadows greatly increase printing time to an unacceptable amount.
4. Adding a new family category for SIGNAGE that has a setting that enables you to stop the signage from flipping when mirrored.
This would be great for mirroring projects.
5. Improved Site Modelling tools (Slightly improved in 2008 with the floor point edit tool)
Currently modelling things like kerbs that follow topography or having components located underground that display correctly in section (with earth hatch wrapping around them) are somewhat difficult to achieve.
DELETED 6. Improved handling of Groups (No longer an issue in 2008)
Groups can be somewhat unreliable with changes to a group often resulting in being unable to "finish group" and then having to ungroup and regroup certain items. Things like this need to be addressed.
7. Addition of further modelling tools (improved in 2008 with point edits...)
The ability to import SAT is great but it would be better not having to purchase another program in order to create complex NURB forms easily.
DELETED 8. The ability to have semi-transparent filled regions (available in 2008)
Sometimes there is the need to lightly hatch over an area without either fully blocking it out or making it too visible.
9. Ability to add views when working in an in-place family
All too often do we need to quit the family and setup some views in order to achieve what we're after...
9. A quick paintbrush tool for resequencing numbering of doors/windows/carparking etc when a change is made.
It's quite time consuming when a change occurs at door 2 and there are three hundred odd doors to renumber. Also when placing anything that is tagged they should have automatic sequential numbering based on your first selection/tagging method (numbers/letters etc).
10. The ability to have lettered revisions as well as numbered
I'm sure most architectural office use both letters and numbers for different stages of the design process. This needs to be implemented in order to make the revision schedule a valid tool, as well as the next item.
11. Greater ability to customise the way schedules appear.
We need the ability to rotate schedules so the column headers can be on the side or the bottom of the schedule. Also the ability to flip the direction in which new rows are added. For instance, the field at the bottom is filled first and subsequent fields added above as required.
12. Greater control of wall layer visibility.
Sometimes we need to only show structural layers of a wall in a view as the finish layers overcomplicate the drawing. Workarounds are not sufficient for this.
13. NON-RECTANGULAR crop regions!
This is very common practice. Having to filled region or masking region (2008) out the unwanted information is annoying and time wasting.
14. Views between sheets need to be able to be aligned
Maybe an underlay sheet tool would be good for this so we can ensure the views appear in the exact same location.
15. Allow true colour representation of views (improved in 2008 with transparent filled regions)
Often light pastel colours will show as white meaning we must use bright ugly colours in order to get differentiation between areas...
16. Rescaling of hatch patterns without having to find the pat file
Its annoying having to find the pat file again and re-import it just to rescale a hatch pattern.
17. A select all instances per view tool
Select all instances is great but there are times when you only want to select from what is shown.
18. Improved DWG Export
Dimensions and text when exported need to create new text and dimension styles instead of using "standard" as this will vary between computers. Also the location of text in dimensions and the witness lines should link to the AutoCAD dimension style settings instead of using proxy overrides.
19. Additional Text control tools (MODEL & DRAFTING)
If we are to improve upon the days of ole (AutoCAD) we need all the text control options that were available there. For instance, the ability to create oblique text, adjust character spacing and adjust text width factor in model text as well.
20. The ability to have decals appear in a shaded view
Those of us who need to show signage, it would be great is we could place these in a way that they display in a standard shaded view without the need to render the view or insert a jpg and line it up...
21. The ability to attach walls to stairs and have stairs join to floors
Stairs are still fiddly and don't have all the flexibilies required. Multi-level stairs need to be able to attach to floors (monolithic). Walls should be able to attach to the underside. Spiral stairs should be able to go further than 360°. Spiral treads need to overlap.
22. Better control of hosted Railings
Railings on stairs when their heights are incorrect, we need the ability to manual edit the 3D path to ensure the railing follows the appropriate angles etc. Although this is sort of possible some slopes are still difficult to achieve. It would also be great if we could tab select the balusters and adjust them individually as an override as spacings are rarely the same...